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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Chris Nappi) says:
>
>In article <1893500004@gn> Ashley Drees <[e-mail]> writes:
>>From: Ashley Drees <[e-mail]>
>>Date: 24 Mar 94 14:24 GMT
>>Subject: PPP for windows
>

>
>On this same note, what are the advanteges of ppp over slip ??

If you use a modern modem with error-correction and compresion, and
IP is the only protocol you use, then there are no advantages of ppp
over slip.

Bye,

Karl
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From: John Wieler <[e-mail]>
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Organization: The University of Manitoba
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Subject: Re: Internet Tour Guide and W4WG?



>     Can anyone tell me if the Chameleon 1.3 that comes in the
> Internet Tour Guide works well with Windows for Workgroups? I'm
> evaluating it for my company, but I don't have a Workgroups machine to
> test it on.
>
I have used Chameleon 3.1 on WFWG 3.1 and Chameleon 4.0 on WFWG 3.11. Both work
reasonably well. However, Chameleon 3.1 doesnt use ODI drivers, which WFWG 3.11
loads by default, so you have to watch out for that.

Good luck

John Wieler
Manager, Clinical Engineering
SBGH

PS Anyone for a Clinical Engineering related WWW server?
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From: [e-mail] (Claire Phagin)
Message-Id: <2mt3n2$[e-mail]>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
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Subject: WINTALK SCREWED MY SYSTEM!!!

I'm usually fairly mellow and tough to piss off, but this time I've about
had it.  I had Wintalk running in the background when I got a talk request.
Wintalk promptly gave  me a runtime error, which, frankly, didn't bother
me much because it happens so regularly.  Next Trumpet crashed, which still
came as no suprise.  THEN, Windows exited itself and rebooted my computer.
Now I'm running Stacker, which is fairly secure, but not when you have a
crash like that.  About half of my system files were corrupted, including
my command.com, my stacker files, and my autoexec.  When I finally got all
that sorted out, and my stacker drive working again, I found that EVERY
directory besides root on my WHOLE hardrive was GONE.  I had to reformat
my whole drive, losing countless amounts of data.  Has anyone else had
severe Wintalk crashes?  Is there a latest version that's better?  I really
love having it running, but this is just insane.  any comments/suggestions?

Later,
Al
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From: [e-mail] (Sargon)
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Subject: wftpd19.zip now available

wftpd19.zip is now available. this version has on screen loging, greeeting and
leaving messages, and the ability to block out certian net addresses and
prefixes. its available at  b61503.student.cwru.edu as well as any other major
site that alun (the authour has uploaded it to (i don't know of any offhand
but i'm sure wuarchive or sunsite will have it.) check it out. i like it. (of
corse i run it))

-Sargon                                  Ftp for windows and winsock files
[e-mail]                        'b61503.student.cwru.edu'
                     "The only perfect science is hindsight."
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From: [e-mail] (Sargon)
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Subject: tape software?

i used to have a windows tape backup software(for colorodo backup tape backup
systyems and compatables) but it got killed in my crash. i haven't been able
to find it or seek it out in archie. dose anyone have a copy of this they
could send my way? (it is shareware) second the registered ver allows network
dumping. i'm not quite sure what that was but anyone know what it is and if it
works with winsock?
thanks

-Sargon                                  Ftp for windows and winsock files
[e-mail]                        'b61503.student.cwru.edu'
                     "The only perfect science is hindsight."
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Subject: Re: wftpd19.zip now available




>wftpd19.zip is now available. this version has on screen loging, greeeting and
>leaving messages, and the ability to block out certian net addresses and
>prefixes. its available at  b61503.student.cwru.edu as well as any other major
>site that alun (the authour has uploaded it to (i don't know of any offhand
>but i'm sure wuarchive or sunsite will have it.) check it out. i like it. (of
>corse i run it))

       Hi, just wondering:  what is it? ;-)

Harrison
Penn State
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Fletcher)
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Subject: Re: Trumpet newsreader problem

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jason DeBord) writes:
>Newsgroups: alt.winsock
>Path: upei.ca!news.unb.ca!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!hookup!news.sprintlink.net!crash!cash.cts.com!festus
>From: [e-mail] (Jason DeBord)
>Subject: Trumpet newsreader problem
>Organization: Festus World Empire
>Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 22:44:05 GMT
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A]
>Sender: [e-mail] (news subsystem)
>Nntp-Posting-Host: cash.cts.com
>Lines: 9


>I am having a problem with my trumpet newsreader, although it may just be
>something stupid I am overlooking.

>It seems that my 'subscribe' mode only shows a portion of the newsgroups
>available.

Thanks to the a few replies from people via e-mail I have tried the suggestion
of completely deleting the news.grp file and then clicking on the subscribe
menu option. Instead of getting the 1900 or so newsgroups I had been receiving
I got about 2950.

I would guess the news.grp file came with the package and had only 1900 or so
Usenet groups listed. Once that file was gone, the news reader was able to
read the news group titles provided by my news feed and therefore all the
other newsgroups suddenly appeared.

Scott Fletcher
Mt. Stewart, Prince Edward Island
Canada
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From: [e-mail] (Ted Pederson)
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Subject: When are socket events posted?

I have 2 questions on the 1.1 winsock spec regarding FD_WRITE.
First,  if a winsock client calls WSAAsyncSelect a second time,  will
an FD_WRITE message be sent to the client  (assuming readiness for
writing)?

Second,  why are send() and sentto() listed as re-enabling functions
for FD_WRITE (on p. 90)?  Each time send() is called the winsock
library is not supposed to post an FD_WRITE message,  right?  Only
after a send() or sentto() fails,  and then buffer space becomes
available,  was my understanding.  Just wanted to make sure...

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Subject: Does any on have a WinSock uqwk or slnr type program?

I want to read NNTP news at home.  I have ethernet/NNTP access at work
(I use qvt/net) so I can read mail from my desktop machine at work.
I want a way to read news off-line at home, with out finding a
UNIX hack to setup an account for me with uqwk or slnr.  (UNIX
programs that will download all unread news in to a soup packet
that you can take home and use with the off-line news reader of
you choice).

Does anyone know of a NNTP news -> soup or qwk packetizer that
runs on Windows/DOS or WindowsNT and uses WinSock?
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From: [e-mail] (Ng Pheng Siong)
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Subject: Re: Looking for lpd printer daemon for DOS

In article <[e-mail]>,
Jonathan B. Marder <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Can anyone point me to an LPD daemon which will run over a packet driver under
>dos (preferably as a background job)?

>From a long time back:
! try tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (130.74.96.13) in ~ftp/pub/lpd.

- PS
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Subject: AppleTalk - Can anyone help?

Hey,  my school decided to cripple it's students by installing AppleTalk!

Meanwhile, I am working on helping all the *marginalized* PC users get
connected to the net-  and I'm stymied when it comes to Windows and
packets.
I have Farallon's Phone net software and some DOS based (Stanford) IP
stuff successfully running.

I have installed the Crynwr Appletlk.com packet driver successfully, and
WINPKT boots OK, but in Windows, the TCPman refuses to start, giving the
drivers not found error.

Is this insurmountable because I am on a dumb network?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated by the poor PC users of Swarthmore.
Thanks,
Evan <[e-mail]>

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Subject: Re: WINTALK SCREWED MY SYSTEM!!!


Much deleted .....

In article <2mt3n2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Claire Phagin) writes:
>I'm usually fairly mellow and tough to piss off, but this time I've about

>
>Later,
>Al


Buy a tape drive :-;




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From: [e-mail] (David L. Brooks)
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Subject: Re: How can complex messages be recv'd with winsock?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Hall) writes:

>I am porting a Unix sockets application to Winsock.  The messages exchanged
>among the various programs constituting the application are C structures.

You'll need to be very, very careful doing this, that the information
exchanged is interpreted the same on both sides.  PCs (depending on your
compilation tools, etc) are 16 bit vs. 32 bit.  Also, some compilers pad
individual items in a struct, and if any padding is going on, you're almost
assured that the two environments (Unix compiler vs. Windows compiler) will do
it differently.

>read() is used by the Unix processes to retrieve data from the socket buffers;
>it reads a certain amount of data from the buffer as specified in one of its
>parameters.  One only needs to give it the size of the structure and it will
>retrieve the whole thing.  read() is not supported with Winsock; you must
>user recv().

Correct; read is a Unix-ism, and sockets under WinSock are not the same as
file handles, though in some implementations they can be.

>recv() read the next message in the queue.  Apparently it
>decides that a message ends when it runs into a '\0' char.

The latter is definitely *not* a true statement.  It will read the # of bytes
sent, or the # of bytes you ask, or perhaps a lesser #, though not more.  It
is most certainly a binary read, not "data sensitive".

>Thus, everything
>following the first string in the structure is left behind in the buffer.
>Obviously, this is creating some serious problems for me.

I'd check the structure passing.  If it were me, I'd probably encode the data
in the structure into a series of strings of some sort, delimited in some
fashion using a character that wouldn't appear in the string (such as new
line, tab, or null, depending on what you are doing), and have both sides
encode/decode.

Best regards,
Dave

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